They're used almost in place of a conversation. ![]() Madeleine: I think the reason it made sense is because so often when I see memes used online, they're not used as part of a conversation, necessarily. ![]() Madeleine: Well, language doesn't work that way, but memes sure do.īen: Tamarin is a language of means, right? Madeleine said the room was suddenly overcome with a collective epiphany like, wow, did Star Trek really predict memes? The Tamarian way of speaking, references, i's not a great example of constructed language because…” And then this one guy stood up and said, “Woah, woah, woah. Because chances are, if you're at a conference attending a presentation about Con Langs, you're probably a bit of a nerd and you've probably seen Darmok.Īmory: Oh, I just thought that was like another Star Trek term coming in.īen: Anyway, this led to a giant nerd debate, of course, about the Tamarian language. Madeleine: Everyone else in the audience sort of made this like, Oh yeah, like familiar noise. Madeleine: So I decided to stop into a session on constructed languages by an editor named Sea Chapman, and she basically spent an hour talking about how we can go about creating fictional languagesīen: During the Q&A, someone brought up Darmok and the Tamarian language. And then in 2018, she goes to a copy editors conference. Madeleine: And eventually Picard comes around to communicate with this guy that they're trying to communicate with because as they eventually figure out, the Tamarins speak in references instead of in literal language.īen: So when Madeleine saw this Star Trek episode in her linguistics class, she thought it was cool, but more like, huh, that's interesting. Because he can’t figure out how to TALK to him. He beams down to a dangerous planet to meet the Tamarian leader tete a tete.Īnd at first it’s hard for Picard to tell whether this Tamarian captain wants to be friends. Only he can't understand what they are saying.ī: In a kind of high stakes effort to make a genuine connection with this Tamarian civilization, Captain Picard does this high stakes thing. Patrick Stewart, is on a video call like a Zoom call between ships with this alien civilization, the Tamarins. So in the episode, Captain Picard, a.k.a. And you immediately went and watched the episode, I know several times. OK, Amory, we have talked about this, right, a little bit. Madeleine: basically the premise of the episode is that Picard and the Enterprise crew encounter a civilization that completely baffles their universal translator. Madeleine Vasaly: Well, I actually didn't see “Darmok” for the first time on TV, I saw it as part of a linguistic anthropology class I was taking in college.īen: This is Madeleine Vasaly. You're not alone in your confusion because once upon a time, the Starfleet crew of the Enterprise were also bewildered Amory in a classic Star Trek episode called “ Darmok.” Tell me more.īen: Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. OK, you ready? Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.Īmory: Oh, I can't work with that, unfortunately. music, sound effects, tone) are harder to translate to text.Īmory Sivertson: I'm going to close my computer, OK?īen Brock Johnson: Is that a good idea because you're on? Aren't we calling, talking to each other on Slack? On Zoom.? Did we lose Amory? Oh, Amory.Īmory: Benjamin Brock-aman John-saman. The transcript has been edited from our original script for clarity. This content was originally created for audio. ![]() " Footsteps in the Dark" by The Isley Brothers." Rapper's Delight" by The Sugar Hill Gang.Dave Grohl and Pharrell interview on Nirvana.Jason O'Bryan and the Abbey Road Institute in London.Mixer, sound designer and music creator: Matt ReedĪdditional production: Josh Crane, Frank Hernandez, Kristin Torres, Sofie Kodner and Rachel Carlson Show producers: Nora Saks, Dean Russell and Quincy Walters Credits:Įpisode producer: Dean Russell, Ben Brock Johnson and Frank HernandezĬo-hosts: Ben Brock Johnson and Amory Sivertson From Tik Tok all the way back to the very beginning of human culture, music provides insight into why memes are such an obsession right now, and how they spread. We’ll cross-examine memes and their relevance and look at the ways in which music has many of the same qualities as the memes we know and love today. In this episode, we challenge all of our stated ideas about the definition of memes and how they operate as a unique unit of cultural information.
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